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* Elrond doesn't wear his fine cloths for the meeting. ;o)	        [12:03]
<paroneayea> we've got an open agenda this time :)
<paroneayea> but!
<paroneayea> several things to discuss anyway I think
<paroneayea> 1) new release out!
<Elrond> WOOHOOO!
<Elrond> (I even missed that!)
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<paroneayea> yeah!
<paroneayea>
	     http://mediagoblin.org/news/mediagoblin-0.3.1-a-whole-new-look.html
								        [12:04]
<paroneayea> other news: elrond is back! ;)
<paroneayea> (??) :)
<Elrond> Well, somewhat.
<paroneayea> back at the moment, at least ;)
<ShawnRisk> Changing Milestones
<Elrond> I'm on the new server, hopefully no hardware problems again on this
	 box.
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: thanks
<paroneayea> so #2:
<ShawnRisk> paroneayea: You're Welcome
<paroneayea> 2) we have some plans for the next release, as I've mailed the
	     list						        [12:05]
<gandaro> ohohoh
<Elrond> sql thingies.
<gandaro> is it conference?!
<gandaro> oh..
<Elrond> gandaro - ACK.
<paroneayea>
	     http://lists.mediagoblin.org/pipermail/devel/2012-August/000258.html
<paroneayea> so the funny thing about this is that a) I just started fulltime
	     on mediagoblin... next week!
<paroneayea> but b) I'm working with the FSF on the fundraising campaign so
	     that I can focus on mediagoblin hopefully actually fulltime! ;)
								        [12:06]
<paroneayea> and not be completely poor
<paroneayea> so for the next month I'm actually really busy organizing that
<paroneayea> after that, I'll be code-focused
<freedeb> money, whoo!
<freedeb> and code!
<Elrond> Sounds like a decent plan!
<paroneayea> from the mailing list:				        [12:07]
<paroneayea>   possible v0.3.2 things
<paroneayea>   ======================
<paroneayea>   * favorites/galleries (aaronsw)
<paroneayea>   * plugin api infrastructure for authentication plugins (willkg)
<paroneayea>   * openid (joar)
<paroneayea>   * browserid? (willkg)
<ShawnRisk> Ticket Triaging?
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: yes that's needed
<gandaro> why don't you just get money from the FSF donations?
<paroneayea> gandaro: yes that's the plan, we're doing a fundraiser through
	     the FSF
<paroneayea> but in order for it to work.
<paroneayea> er, no period intended				        [12:08]
<paroneayea> we need to set it up so it's well marketed
<paroneayea> so people will actually give money :)
<paroneayea> and that takes a ton of work
<freedeb> and t-shirts
<paroneayea> yes :)
<paroneayea> that's why nonprofits tend to be craziest to work at at the end
	     of the year, that's when everyone is going crazy getting the
	     fundraising campaign running ;)			        [12:09]
<paroneayea> anyway I'm really excited about it, and it'll be the first time
	     the FSF does something like a crowdfunding campaign for a project
	     like ours but
<Elrond> ;)
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<paroneayea> the result is that I'm going to need some help over the next
	     month so I can make sure the campaign is a success and so that we
	     can *still* knock out a 0.3.2 in october!
<ShawnRisk> paroneayea: all I am saying that we need to make a way for
	    milestones to improve, and not have this be laying around for
	    weeks.  Also for the Ticket Triaging, we actually have to make
	    this something, and yes I know everyone is busy but maybe just set
	    an hour for really hard ticketing and the rest of the day is
	    whatever comes up.					        [12:10]
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: I agree with you			        [12:11]
<paroneayea> we did set up the official time and willkg had it send out an
	     email but it seems everyone missed it this week
<freedeb> could we offer a free tshirt to the highest ticket triager every
	  other month?
<freedeb> with "ticket Boss"on the back				        [12:12]
<paroneayea> freedeb: hm, that's not a bad idea
<paroneayea> we need t-shirts first :)
<freedeb> heh
<paroneayea> but that'll be coming as part of the campaign :)
<freedeb> November 1st, we'd have some
<freedeb> I can get the letters on the back done\		        [12:13]
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: I have marked down the 13th on my calendar in actual
	     ink :)
<paroneayea> I will make the next biweekly ticket triage and will make sure
	     I'm devoted to it, even with the state of the campaign in
	     whatever
<freedeb> do we have a calendar in our contributor area?	        [12:14]
<paroneayea> we don't
<paroneayea> (I marked it on the actual calendar next to my desk
<freedeb> maybe we could pu these meetings, ticket triage and other dealines
	  in there
<freedeb> deadlines
<ShawnRisk> paroneayea: I am not saying you need to be at the next one, I
	    wasn't here at all either.  I am just saying that as with other
	    projects, they get people to signup to help out for an hour of
	    that day.
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: ah yeah
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: should we do some sort of "call to triage" thing?
								        [12:15]
<ShawnRisk> paroneayea: uh?
<schendje> what, like a batsign?
<paroneayea> a goblinsign
<paroneayea> haha not sure
<freedeb> like a larger call to peripheral or new folks
<freedeb> I wish we had a goblin-sign
<paroneayea> I mean, microblog it and try to raise more somethingorother
<paroneayea> freedeb: re: calendar it's a good idea, though it's either one
	     more thing to host, or we might need to use a hosted version that
	     already exists					        [12:16]
<paroneayea> I'd rather avoid a proprietary web service... but
<paroneayea> unhosted has some calendaring things I think
<paroneayea> I'm not sure what's the cost/benefit of trying to use it but it's
	     maybe worth looking into
<freedeb> there isn't a free calendar wiki plugin?
<paroneayea> oh
<paroneayea> owncloud
<paroneayea> freedeb: oh there might be
<freedeb> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Calendar_%28Cdamian%29
								        [12:17]
<saul> a calendar plug-in for mediagoblin?
<paroneayea> saul: ha
<paroneayea> freedeb: worth looking into anyway...		        [12:18]
<paroneayea> freedeb: could you file a ticket on it marked as infrastructure
	     to look into maybe a wiki calendar
<paroneayea> it might be worth it, it might not!  but it would at least be
	     nice to look into
<paroneayea> so this is kind of a rambly meeting because we don't have an
	     agenda, so I guess I have two main things:		        [12:19]
<paroneayea>  - a call for people to help with reviewing each others' code
	     this month?
<freedeb> ok, will do
<paroneayea>  - anything else anyone wants to bring up?		        [12:20]
<paroneayea> so that last one wasn't a specific thing at all :)
<saul> I'd like to volunteer to help with removing spam accounts from the
       WIKI.							        [12:21]
<paroneayea> saul: GREAT!
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<paroneayea> saul: I'm going to PM you willkg's email address.  could you send
	     the two of us an email?
ERC> /query saul
<saul> paroneayea, sure thing.					        [12:22]
<paroneayea> saul: thanks, that's something we really need help with!
* joar 								        [12:23]
<ShawnRisk> maybe there needs to be a list somewhere unless this is already on
	    the mailing list, that people can help with and they can put their
	    name up for that
<schendje> you mean a list of tasks?				        [12:24]
<paroneayea> Will did put out an email recently to the list asking for help
	     with that
<joar> I think greg-g responded to that.			        [12:25]
<paroneayea> yeah he did
<ShawnRisk> paroneayea: dated so I can look at this?		        [12:26]
<paroneayea> Date: Wed 22 Aug 2012 07:08:11 PM CDT
<paroneayea> Subject: [GMG-Devel] watching wiki changes -- need your help!
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<paroneayea> anyway, anything else anyone wants to bring up?
<paroneayea> (also sorry for the lack of better prep this meeting, I've been
	     nonstop finishing up work at CC, working on the mediagoblin
	     campaign materials, and finishing my move :))	        [12:28]
<paroneayea> we're moved in mostly now at least :)
<ShawnRisk> paroneayea: no worries, you are busy
<Elrond> Nearly same () for me, except replace CC by job+finishing-phd.
								        [12:29]
<paroneayea> :)
<ShawnRisk> paroneayea: do we want to discuss the redesign of website?
<paroneayea> oh							        [12:30]
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: that hasn't come up for a bit I suppose, yeah :)
<paroneayea> but
<paroneayea> I think schendje is probably busy this month ;)
<paroneayea> because I put him to work ont he campaign ;)
<joar> :D
<paroneayea> so not sure if there's anything else to discuss on it, the person
	     in charge has been distracted by yours truly :)	        [12:31]
<paroneayea> unless schendje thinks otherwise (not sure if he's afk though)
<paroneayea> anything else?  if not we could declare this the earliest over
	     meeting ever ;)					        [12:32]
<joar> well, the campaign is listed above the website in my list.
<paroneayea> yeah the campaign is very time-sensitive
<joar> (figuratively)
<paroneayea> and it's a distraction for me now
<paroneayea> but once it's done if successful
<paroneayea> it means that I'll be able to work distraction-free on
	     mediagoblin
<Elrond> joar - How's the API thingy going?			        [12:33]
<paroneayea> oh!  I'm curious of that also
<paroneayea> joar: did you read my last reply email?
<joar> paroneayea: oh, that's right, yes!
<joar> I saved an empty draft reply, it seems like a good solution for now.
<joar> Might be that willkg needs something outside of that.	        [12:34]
<joar> And with OpenID, I might take the Authentication-base-class solution.
<joar> but for OAuth, a specific api view decorator might suffice.      [12:35]
<paroneayea> gotcha
<paroneayea> joar: well with openid
<paroneayea> you could just activate request.user in the session
<joar> So, I'm currently trying to figure out OAuth 2.0 by pointing an OAuth
       2.0 client to MediaGoblin and
<joar> paroneayea: Yeah, well, my problem is that I always try to make it
       extendable from the start.				        [12:36]
<joar> thanks for keeping me on the ground :)
<paroneayea> :)							        [12:37]
<joar> and .. building the server around the OAuth 2.0 client, since there's
       no OAuth 2.0 servers available to my knowledge.
<paroneayea> derp
<paroneayea> joar: so, cool :)					        [12:38]
<gmgbot> *NEWS* issues: Ticket #495 (Central calendar for contributor dates)
	 created
<joar> and I can't be excpected to build it from the technical draft alone,
       although I use it as support during the implementation.
<paroneayea> joar: and at this point you're going to be implementing the API
	     as separate views, probably as a plugin (or factored out into a
	     plugin later?)					        [12:39]
<paroneayea> as opposed to the same-view stuff from before
<joar> Yeah, for now they're in core.
<paroneayea> (I agree that that's a better route)
<paroneayea> cool
<joar> yes, that was the "MAKE IT THE BEST FROM THE START" impulse getting me
       lost in the woods.
<paroneayea> KISS :)						        [12:40]
<paroneayea> yeah it's easy for that to happen
<joar> DRY KISS
<joar> :)
<paroneayea> sounds like kissing a mummy.
<paroneayea> on that note!
<paroneayea> joar: thanks for the update :)
<paroneayea> anything else?  :)					        [12:41]
<joar> Yeah, well, you're welcome, and thanks. I don't have anything else to
       add.
<paroneayea> cool
<paroneayea> anything else meeting-wise from anyone?
<saul> Paroneayea, just curious, have you finished your interview with FaiF?
<paroneayea> saul: yes						        [12:42]
<saul> Looking forward to it.
<ShawnRisk> I am interested to know about plugins but isn't that a willkg
	    thing?
<paroneayea> should be out on 9-11-2012
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: ah yeah willkg isn't here and that's largely a him
	     thing but not entirely
<paroneayea> so basic plugins stuff is there.  One thing we'd like to see is
	     more things factored into plugins!			        [12:43]
<freedeb> never forget
<paroneayea> once I finish campaign work
<paroneayea> freedeb: ;)
<paroneayea> I'll be working on refactoring something like openstreetmap
	     support into a plugin
<ShawnRisk> when is campaign work done?
<paroneayea> ShawnRisk: campaign is scheduled to launch october 1st
<paroneayea> ideally, it'll be all set to go the week before.
<ShawnRisk> good to hear					        [12:44]
<paroneayea> :)
<ShawnRisk> I have nothing else on my mind
<joar> Just so you know, I've been a bit busy with a side project;
       http://talka.tv, but I've managed to go through aaronw's collections
       patch.							        [12:45]
<paroneayea> joar: yay to both of those things!
<joar> :)
<paroneayea> thanks for stepping up and helping on the review of aaronw's
	     stuff
<paroneayea> and I think talka.tv is super exciting :)		        [12:46]
<paroneayea> for those who don't know, talka.tv is a free software replacement
	     for somethign like disqus
<joar> (Me and aaronw has to do some additional bug fixes in his merge, but
       it's on the doorstep to master)				        [12:47]
<paroneayea> we might use it on the mediagoblin blog soon :)
<paroneayea> joar: yay!
<joar> (that was a freudian slip, aaronw has been fixing all of the bugs this
       far :)
<paroneayea> :)
<Elrond> Oh well. ask me sometime again, and I'll look over the sql part of
	 aaronw's stuff, if it's needed. But basicly, I'm busted busy the next
	 days/week.						        [12:48]
<paroneayea> Elrond: I think it would be cool if you could review it before it
	     lands (or at least before the next release)	        [12:49]
<paroneayea> and understand :)
* joar has to go socialize and prepare food
<paroneayea> awesome
<joar> thanks for the meeting!
<paroneayea> h'okay, anything else?
<paroneayea> later joar!
<Elrond> joar - See you!
<Elrond> paroneayea - Okay, I'll try to catch up sometime soon.
<paroneayea> Elrond: awesome, thanks :)
<paroneayea> okay, if there's nothing else			        [12:50]
<paroneayea> I say we call it a wrap :)
<paroneayea> that was a productive meeting despite the no-agenda!
<paroneayea> thanks all :)
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